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More vines for Sicily

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After my failure to make hardly any of the terrain I intended last year I thought I had better start with my long planned extra vines.
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I made three according to my original design copied from a ZTT original (on the left) but changed over to using plant prunings for the rest.
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The difference is more apparent in the work in progress picture, the JTT copies use thin twisted copper wire.
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The originals were made for the Sicily big game back in 2015 (link below) and these double the amount I have.
https://willwarweb.blogspot.com/2015/04 ... eyard.html
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:D Really like these... in fact if you have a dozen extra you can send them my way! :lol:
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Very nice work. I think the plant prunings are more convincing than the wire ones. The vines my father and grandfather used to grow got quite large at the base, although I'm not sure how much similarity there is between local grape varieties and Sicilian ones.

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David Reasoner wrote: 08 Apr 2021, 15:53 Very nice work. I think the plant prunings are more convincing than the wire ones. The vines my father and grandfather used to grow got quite large at the base, although I'm not sure how much similarity there is between local grape varieties and Sicilian ones.

David
The varieties of vines and the way they are grown varies a lot depending on the local conditions. On Lanzarote they are grown in shallow walled depressions in the fine lava (can't remember the correct name). More generally on the Canaries they are low growing because of the winds. I just went for a generic style typical of much of Italy/France/Spain
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Fire-at-Will wrote: 08 Apr 2021, 16:01 The varieties of vines and the way they are grown varies a lot depending on the local conditions.
In our case, the vines originally grew wild on my grandfather's property in Missouri before being transplanted to Kentucky. Local conditions in our case were more than a bit odd. In addition to a purpose-built trellis (of engineer stakes and aluminum wire) behind the house, they also eventually colonized the coax cable runs and guy wires to my father's pair of amateur radio antenna towers. :lol:

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Those are fantastic Will :D
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David Reasoner wrote: 08 Apr 2021, 16:21
Fire-at-Will wrote: 08 Apr 2021, 16:01 The varieties of vines and the way they are grown varies a lot depending on the local conditions.
In our case, the vines originally grew wild on my grandfather's property in Missouri before being transplanted to Kentucky. Local conditions in our case were more than a bit odd. In addition to a purpose-built trellis (of engineer stakes and aluminum wire) behind the house, they also eventually colonized the coax cable runs and guy wires to my father's pair of amateur radio antenna towers. :lol:

David
Some of what I saw on the remote part of the Canaries would be similar, lot of wire and weird framework. :lol:
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Which grape variety Will
Any thing bigger than 6 is TOO BIG
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Great work Will.

What did you use for foliage? And how did you get it to clump like that?

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CarlL wrote: 09 Apr 2021, 19:27 Great work Will.

What did you use for foliage? And how did you get it to clump like that?

CarlL
The foliage is the Javis clump foliage, but the literally sticky part is smearing the glue across the top of the prunings and wire and then pressing it together. The break off any loose/badly positioned foliage (you can reuse it) and then coat with dilute PVA to keep it is place.
ianrs54 wrote: 09 Apr 2021, 06:02 Which grape variety Will
Nero de Avolo or Grillo. Surprising good wines especially when partaken after a days walking in the Sicilian hills. For some reason they don't know how to make decent beer and import it from the mainland.
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