Reconnissance by Force

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UshCha
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Reconnissance by Force

Post by UshCha » 10 Sep 2019, 14:52

So its 1991 the Russians are coming. Unforetunately not where we Gemans had intended, they have broken through. The Russians have had milimal time for reconnisance, all thay know is that therws likely only a screening force between them and there objective.
Unfortunately the are correct all the germans can field are the Lepard 2's compamy of the Reconnisance battalion, 4 Jaguar 1'.s and a two of sections of LUCH's. There has been no time for the Infantry to dig in just time for the AFV's to pick there positions and cammo up.

The geound is not great for the Russians as they have to move qith a reasonable tempo. The next stretch is rather open with a hill some 3km ditand unfortunately a good place foe a Jaguar.

Reconnisance Screen

Panzer Reconnaissance Company with
Note missions undertaken are as follows. Rear area patrols, convoy escort, picket duties & aggressive reconnaissance.
Company HQ Platoon 1x M-113A2, with Cmd teams CO, XO,
1x AOP in M-113A2G,1x MOP in Iltis jeep,
1x M-113A2G Ambulance, 2 Supply Truck
Fitter Platoon 1x M-113A2G with Repair teams,
1x M-806A2G,1x Leopard-2 Buffel ARV
Surveillance Section 3x TPZ-1 Rasit with GS Radar
Reconnaissance Platoon
HQ Section 2x Luchs (1 PC & 1 NCO)
4 Reconnaissance Section each with 2x Luchs
Tank Platoon 1x Leopard-2A1cmd & 2x Leopard-2A1
2x Tank Section each with 3x Leopard-2A1

Mortar Battery Not far off table.

Battery HQ Section 1x M-113A2G, with Cmd teams CO.
6x M-113/120mm mortars
376rds of HE, AB, Smoke BE/WP, ILL Range 450-6,550m


What is comming is a Motor rifle battalion.

Motor Rifle Battalion
Battalion HQ Company 1x BMP-1KShM with Cmd team CO
1x BMP-1KShM with Cmd team XO
 Security Section 4x BRDM-2
 Signal Platoon 4x BMP-Shu
 Anti Aircraft Section 1x 2S6M
 Fitter Platoon 2x Gaz-66 trucks with Repair teams,
 Medical Section 1x MT-LB Ambulance
 Supply Platoon 4x supply trucks, 2x tankers

3x Motor Rifle Company
Company HQ 1x BMP-2K
 3x Infantry Platoon each with
 1x PC in PC BMP-2D carrying
1x Squad 1x SAW of 2 men, 4x Rifles, 1x Radioman
 2x BMP-2D each carrying a infantry squad of
1x fire team 1x LSW, 3x Rifles
1x fire team 3x Rifles
Or as tank hunting team with 1x RPG-22 LAD
& 1x AT-5 ATGW of 2 men
1x Tank Company
Company HQ 1x T-80UK
 3x Tank Platoon 3x T-80U
Note this company is attached from the motor rifle regiment tank battalion.

 1x 122mm Self Propelled Artillery Batteries
Battery HQ Platoon 1x ACRV with Cmd team CO & AOP team
1x ACRV with Cmd team XO & AOP team
6x 2S1, (HE, AB, Smoke BE/WP, ILL)
Note 1 BMP-1PRP Artillery Radar attached to 122mm Batteries
(240rds). Continuous fire 2rds per minute.
Burst rate fire 8rds per minute Range 15,300m

 120mm Towed Mortar Battery
Battery HQ Platoon 1x MT-LB with Cmd team CO
1x MOP in Uaz-469 jeep
6x Trucks towing M-43 120mm Mortar
540rds of (HE, AB, Smoke BE/WP, ILL)

Radios

Typically all units down to sqaud leader level have radios. However individual fireteams will not have radios except in elite units.

The question is what would your order of march be and what spacings would you use. Given time is critical long infantry moves are not an option.

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Re: Reconnissance by Force

Post by dadlamassu » 10 Sep 2019, 16:22

Assuming you want a Soviet solution then have a look at https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a047784.pdf

should cover most of what you need

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Re: Reconnissance by Force

Post by UshCha » 11 Sep 2019, 00:06

dadlamassu,
To be honest I am not sure this really does the job. It really does not cover what is the approach march against very light opposition is. it sort of covers better where the enemy have been located. The first thing the MR regiment needs to do is work out where the enemy is. That's simple if you knew where you were going days before but that is not always the case. The object of the German screen is to force the bulk enemy to slow down. The scenario to me explores the decision making of how the "attacker" decides the minimum resources to commit to what he can be reaseonably certain is a relatively small force. I have some areas of Cold war Germany mapped for the British responsibility and the valleys are often open but the ground either side is difficult to pass by mobile forces being dence forrest. This would make outflanking difficut for either side without significant warning to cut/strengthen roads and/or dig in infantry which is outside the scape of the screening involved in this scenario. This pre supposes that the Russian Doctrine is correct. Thre is no reason in a wargame the general cannot "experiment" after all that's the beauty of a simulation to explore some options.

I have seen some documents where the lead of the MRR is actually 2 BMP's in relatively low risk area some 20 min infront of the next force. They are likely to be lost but gives an advanced warning of trouble if they are lucky. Is this the best and why for instance is a useful issue to consider.

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Re: Reconnissance by Force

Post by dadlamassu » 11 Sep 2019, 10:03

UshCha wrote:
10 Sep 2019, 14:52
So its 1991 the Russians are coming. Unforetunately not where we Gemans had intended, they have broken through. The Russians have had milimal time for reconnisance, all thay know is that therws likely only a screening force between them and there objective.
Unfortunately the are correct all the germans can field are the Lepard 2's compamy of the Reconnisance battalion, 4 Jaguar 1'.s and a two of sections of LUCH's. There has been no time for the Infantry to dig in just time for the AFV's to pick there positions and cammo up.

The geound is not great for the Russians as they have to move qith a reasonable tempo. The next stretch is rather open with a hill some 3km ditand unfortunately a good place foe a Jaguar.


The question is what would your order of march be and what spacings would you use. Given time is critical long infantry moves are not an option.
Your briefing (quoted above) set the mission as a direct assault as part of a rapid breakthrough advance on the objective. This is the lead battalion of the Front and time is of the essence as the remaining battalions of the MRR will be 20 minutes at most behind.

So "Two Up, bags of smoke and straight through" - no stopping to fight, the second echelon will deal with enemy survivors. My mission as you stated is to break through and press on. The objective is not here but further on. вперед к славе - обвинять!

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Re: Reconnissance by Force

Post by UshCha » 11 Sep 2019, 22:23

Now that is interesting! Not really thought about it that way. Must have a go at that one! This sort of thing is what makes me keep playing year in and year out.

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