Water Cooled Vickers MG in "Light" role

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Re: Water Cooled Vickers MG in "Light" role

Post by dadlamassu » 09 Jun 2019, 09:52

Remember that most of the troops on Singapore Island were demoralised, depleted and defeated remnants backed by untried and largely poorly trained Commonwealth troops.

We must not forget that the Japanese, on the other hand, were well led and mostly exerienced victorious troops who were of high morale and who had absolute faith in their leaders.

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Re: Water Cooled Vickers MG in "Light" role

Post by bannockburn bhoy » 09 Jun 2019, 10:17

David Reasoner wrote:
08 Jun 2019, 21:11
Found a scanned copy online of the applicable training manual (1936 edition) for the Vickers tank/AFV machine gun. Use of the bipod field mounting and the shoulder piece is covered on page 23 of the manual. These were accessories to permit the dismounting of vehicle machine guns for field use when the situation required it.

https://vickersmg.files.wordpress.com/2 ... -04-36.pdf

David
That's a good dig out David...appreciated :)

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Re: Water Cooled Vickers MG in "Light" role

Post by bannockburn bhoy » 09 Jun 2019, 10:25

dadlamassu wrote:
09 Jun 2019, 09:52
Remember that most of the troops on Singapore Island were demoralised, depleted and defeated remnants backed by untried and largely poorly trained Commonwealth troops.

We must not forget that the Japanese, on the other hand, were well led and mostly exerienced victorious troops who were of high morale and who had absolute faith in their leaders.
I must confess that im totally ignorant on the specifics of this. I came across an article by a descendent of the Japanese General who said ,"the General couldn't believe we were going to surrender ",as their intel had discovered the number and extent of the newly disembarked troops.
If only they had known what they were surrendering into, there is a case for last man last bullet.
I made friends with an ex Japanese POW , Willie was a colossus of a man in his day ,but never managed to put his build back on for the rest of his life ,he also suffered severe bouts of malaria that totally incapacitated him.

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Re: Water Cooled Vickers MG in "Light" role

Post by bannockburn bhoy » 09 Jun 2019, 10:27

Richard B. wrote:
09 Jun 2019, 09:36
bannockburn bhoy wrote:
08 Jun 2019, 18:02
Can you imagine firing that on a bipod .
Theres a Lanchester in a museum in Hong Kong ...at least there was before we handed HK back.

There has been a great deal of criticism of British High Command over Singapore and indeed of the officers commanding on the ground in particular Lt Gen Percival.
Nearly 140,00 Allied troops 130,000 of which went into captivity, defeated by 65,000 Japanese. The greater part of those that went into the bag were Indian troops ,half of which ,allegedly joined the Japanese Burma Army.
Anyone got any thoughts on where it went wrong was Percival rightly blamed .
Percival seems to have totally given up all hope.

I fully accept most of the defences faced the sea, and a land based attack wasn`t expected (before the war obviously). But freshly landed Aussies and Indians virtually walked into captivity without firing a shot - quite bizarre??
At best it appears to be a serious clusterfk Richard :shock: :shock:

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