Changing scales - 15mm or 28mm?

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Changing scales - 15mm or 28mm?

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Hello

I'm changing scales and am dithering between 15mm and 28mm. The main requirement is that they will be based individually as I prefer that level of play. Obviously 28mm takes up twice the room as 15mm (1/56 as opposed to 1/100 scale). I will be using my own skirmish rules, so rules are not an issue. My eye sight isn't a problem as I just finished painting a large batch of 6mm H&R, even though I will be selling those shortly.

Help!

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Re: Changing scales - 15mm or 28mm?

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Or maybe back to 20mm after an 18 year break 8-)
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Personally if starting again I would go for 15mm. 20mm is great for modelling and 28mm for painting lots of detail . But it still depends a lot on what nationality/theatre you want to do and the availability of models/figures in that scale.
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I'd agree with Will, 15mm is better, and these days you can get almost everything.
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I find the size/space difference between 15 and 20mm hardly any difference at all - even storage wise they take up virtually the same space :)

28mm is in my mind a purely skirmish scale - a platoon at most plus one or two vehicles on a table. It also takes up far more room storage wise, unless your just doing small scale skirmish set-ups.

To be honest my painting skills arn`t up to 28mm, my eyes no good for detailing anything smaller than 20mm anyway, so if I was to start again I`d still go for 20mm, at least in this size/scale I can model, mess about, convert and paint - Im not sure I can do that in the other two scales/sizes.
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Of the two 15mm would be my preference as that's what I use. Something to take in to consideration is terrain and scenics. It can take up a large part of the budget if a whole new set is required. Found this to my cost a decade ago when I planned to switch to 10mm.
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I do 6mm but my latest acquisition is 10mm.

15mm can be individually based. Not only are 28mm significantly larger, taking up more space, and more expensive, so creating financial strain, but, additionally, so is the terrain. Larger models also require better painting skills. Your gaming table will represent a smaller area.

No question for me that 15mm would be the choice but you might take a different view.
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If you are thinking 15mm then why not 10mm? Just as the detail has evolved on 15mm so it has on 10mm and so has their availability.

As noted above perhaps start with another question rather than what scale?

eg What period or games do I want to play? This leads to questions like...

Are figures available in what scales?
Are AFV available in this scale? (or aircraft or whatever you envisage using in game from ships to trains to scenery types, (eg Russian village buildings, Normandy style villlages?)

At what cost? Can I afford these?

(The bigger the games planed generally the bigger the cost. And usually the bigger the storage space needed for toys and scenery. Unless you down size and as Richard B noted not a lot of diference from 20mm to 15mm in space needed for storage or playing a game....?)
The bigger the kind of game you want to play the bigger the table space needed .. eg tank battles, so downing sizing to 15mm or 10mm helps there both offer detail in models, like tanks.

Or a different start up question might be what type of game do I want to play? Skirmish or big battle?
OR Got all day to play or Fast play games / rules?

If you want individual figure bases then this may suggest skirmish games with big toys in 28mm? But you can play big games using few figures to represent many? Or have a cast of many and use movement trays like the bases that Warbases developed for holding multiple round (or other shaped) individual bases?

Hope these questions help you think through what you really, really want....

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Re: Changing scales - 15mm or 28mm?

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CarlL wrote: 21 Apr 2020, 22:41 If you are thinking 15mm then why not 10mm?
I off-loaded my 10mm collection several years ago (sorry, I should have said that in my original post).

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ianrs54 wrote: 21 Apr 2020, 06:43 I'd agree with Will, 15mm is better, and these days you can get almost everything.
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